In any situation where a life change, trauma or incident has deeply affected you or when you want to clear past influences out of your way to growth, EGCM can benefit you.

What is EGCM® Certified?

Equine Gestalt Coaching is different than any other type of equine coaching you may have heard of or seen.  With EGCM the horse is an active partner in the coaching and healing process.  Using their combined wisdom and intuition, the EGCM coach and their equine partner will guide you through your experience and journey to greater self-awareness!

All of us carry the answers WITHIN OURSELVES!
We are here to help guide you to
uncover YOUR  Wisdom!

How?  Working together, the EGCM coach, both two-legged and four-legged, will help you isolate the unfinished business that is causing you pain or blocking your path to success and happiness. Then, through experiential interaction they will assist you in clearing the energy that has been holding you back or keeping you from your best self.

EGCM is an in the moment process — "We meet you where you are; we just don't leave ya there!" 

The Equine Gestalt Coaching Method® was developed byMelisa Pearce, a core founder since 1989, of the horse-human healing movement and an expert trained psychotherapist.  The experiential nature of the EGC method involves the horse as an active partner with the coach in the client's exploratory process.  The integrative approach  of the equine's interaction combined with positive coaching, somatic awareness, guidance and Gestalt methodology, assist the participant in examining their life and choices made with a focus on designing a positive future. Equine Gestalt Coaching Method (EGCM®) is an in depth two year certification process with a minimum of 40 Continuing Education Units (CEU's ) that must be completed every two years.

Is this "therapy"?

Not at all. Co-active coaching is not about labels or diagnosis; it's about forward motion and health.

EGCM Coaching is partnering with a person in a thought-provoking and creative process that INSPIRES one to maximize THEIRPersonal Potential.

Though therapeutic in nature, coaching is about growth and awareness!

"The truth is, you are already whole, complete and perfect and are capable of making empowering choices.
We, my horses and I, are here to support you in your Wisdom Way Journey to uncover YOUR wisdom within!
~ Nancy De Santis Equine Gestalt Coach

Horses provide vast opportunities for growth and learning about our world and the world around us. Working with them creates an environment where we can recognize and acknowledge our actions, how we learn, how we communicate and how we interact with others. Working with our horses brings a deeper understanding and helps to provide a person with tools that  can be taken into everyday life!

"Trauma is not what happens to us, but what happens inside us as a result of what happened to us."

~ Gabor Mate, MD

Let Nancy help equip YOU with the tools and education you need to succeed.

 The gift of a horse:

Wisdom Way For Warriors is not about horseback riding, it's about your relationship with a horse.  The beauty of working with our horses is what you discover can be taken home and applied to your everyday life and relationships.


Who do you serve? 

Wisdom Way For Warriors Coaching is offered to Post 9/11 men and women and active military, as well as veterans from all eras.
Please keep in mind, because we work outside and with horses one should be able to withstand walking around the property and in the round pen.

What do I wear / bring?

We are located at approximately 6500 feet in the high desert of Santa Fe County. Mornings tend to be cool and temperatures increase through the day, so dressing in layers is recommended. 

Closed shoes - no sandals
Wide brimmed hat
Light long sleeve shirt 
Personal water bottle
You can even bring a journal to record your experience

How long is a session? 

Each session is individually unique. When planning for your session you can safely plan for the minimum of 1.5 hours with a maximum of 3.
Most people enjoy the setting and not rushing is part of the journey.

Do you offer Customized Women Veteran Retreats?

Yes, upon request. Please contact us by sending your email inquiry to nancy@horsesforheroes.org.

Wisdom Way retreats offer another way for our warriors to reconnect with their wisdom within. These retreats can range anywhere from getting to know horses, mindfulness guidance, neuroscience and the "other side" of PTSD, as well as resourcing skills to learn self-regulation tools.

"As a therapist, I see the need and potential for groups like this where women are able to get together and
share life experiences and struggles in as safe, non-judgmental environment"    
~Wendy D. Clinical Therapist and U.S. Navy Veteran.

Many women find the group setting empowering, nurturing and enlightening! While still others prefer one-on-one personal coaching sessions with Nancy.

Are you ready for lasting change?

Horses are teachers and carriers of messages...

Working with our horses can help you with:

Anxiety and moving beyond fear
Learning to be present and live in the moment
Attain inner peace and calm
Relationship skills

Improve communication
  Develop patience
Build confidence
Develop boundaries
Learn to trust
Increase energy and vitality
Expand awareness
Working through grief & loss and the soul wounds of war

  Horses are great coaches; they perceive, interpret and respond
to where we are in the moment.
There is no judgement. All they want is for us to be in
Complete Alignment ~ Mind, Body & Spirit.

Coaching with horses is unmounted, safe, engaging

and requires NO previous horse experience.

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A Thank you letter:

From a heart full of gratitude to Nancy and Rick.

   I attended a workshop presented by Nancy. Prior to the workshop and at the end, I had time with Rick.

   I went to the workshop in a state of emptiness, despair, and feeling raw inside. I had spent 3 months in physical pain and a deep depression. I could not shake where I was nor could I put words to what was happening inside of me.

   Nancy shared a wealth of information regarding what veterans experience both in war and coming home. She shared how veterans’ responses to life are different than the non-veteran because of living in war with life changing experiences moment by moment; the depth of comradeship; the struggles of re-entry to society; and moving through the darkness to self-acceptance, self-care, and self-love.

   Nancy put words to what was happening inside of me. I no longer felt disconnected from myself and others. I learned my whole body had been traumatized. I had a real conflict of my beliefs and values. What I need is self-compassion to be whole.

   My journey of coming home was being dishonored and disrespected. With Nancy and Rick, I felt Welcomed Home and understood. I was embraced with love.

   When Nancy talked about the invisible wounds, the soul injury and moral injury, I had a real awakening. She said “war is an assault on the soul”. The intrusive thoughts and the depth of darkness over me the past 3 months was about my soul. My soul was wounded and needs healing.

    In the presence of Nancy, I learned and touched a deeper part of myself and came to an awareness of what was missing. Nancy is always learning so she can give of her wisdom to the wounded hearts and souls of veterans. It is healing to know myself in the present moment and to know my experiences in Vietnam are part of every moment of every day and a part of who I am but they no longer control my daily life. I am resilient and after being with Nancy and Rick, I can smile again. I will forever be grateful for my time with them.

G. Hager, Great Falls, Army Special Services, Vietnam

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Click the video below to learn more about EGCM:

A way to your Wisdom Within!


" When you have tried everything and your appointments become the same old thing
call Nancy De Santis. Expect to be catapulted back into your soul. Never give up! Do something different for a different life. Give a horse a chance."

~ D. J. US Air Force

Welcome to Wisdom Way For Warriors

Reward yourself with an experience of self-discovery through the way of the horse.

Schedule your personal session:
To book your private session, please fill out your Wisdom Way Session Request here 
     Please note that your session he                                   

      Meet two of your coaches:

 Nancy & Jack
Jack is one of Nancy's four-legged co-facilitators
           who is ready to work  with YOU!

Nancy De Santis is the Programs Director at Horses For Heroes – New Mexico, Inc. She is the Lead CCHI Certified Horsemanship Riding Instructor, a Certified Equine Gestalt Coach and Certified Trauma Professional. Nancy's area of expertise and passion lies in the multidimensional aspects of trauma and empowering individuals along their healing journey.

Nancy is currently offering Wisdom Way wholistic coaching at no cost to veterans and active military, as her way of giving back to those who so selflessly have served.